tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15148649.post6155930458364036139..comments2024-02-28T12:45:41.512-05:00Comments on Greig Roselli — Teacher, Writer, Philosophy Sprinkles Maker: Gay Rights and Teen Suicide: A PolemicGreig Rosellihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03334077247271264789noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15148649.post-3846800301420308012010-12-01T19:09:15.798-05:002010-12-01T19:09:15.798-05:00Thanks SteveMD2 for your comment. I think you poin...Thanks SteveMD2 for your comment. I think you point out the main point of my brief remarks: hatred leads to many nasty events in history. I am not arguing that Tyler's roommates murdered him, but rather, more insidiously, they hated him which led him to jump off the George Washington Bridge. This is hardly a fun prank. As regards to the details of Matthew Shepherd's death, my point is that the men killed him because he flirted back (whether or not he flirted first is another matter).Greig Rosellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03334077247271264789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15148649.post-43750890907236859312010-11-29T01:06:48.652-05:002010-11-29T01:06:48.652-05:00I agree with much but a couple points. I have met...I agree with much but a couple points. I have met Matthew Shepards parents about 4-5 times. Reaching out to people I would otherwise never have known except for the brutal murder of their son and the psycopaths who came to his funeral in glee.<br /><br />Matthew was approached by these two boys (Henderson and McKinney), telling him they were gay. They picked Matthew up and the rest is sick history. BTW, what do you think I do when the boy scouts (who must affirm a belief in God) come to the door selling cookies, and Henderson was an EAGLE SCOUT.<br /><br />As for Tyler, these other two were just having a little fun with a gay boy, as best as I can discern the situation. I don't see them as being guilty of murder, but probably guilty of reckless endangerment, as well as violations of the privacy laws.<br /><br />But then who is guilty of murder- the church leaders who condemn gay people are every bit guilty of murder via their words as hitler was guilty of mass murder - he also got other people to do his dirty work.<br /><br />Just as guilty as the Wahabis of Islam, their extremist sect, which rules social life in Saudi Arabia under 10th century religious concepts from the dark ages that gave us 9/11<br /><br />The sooner we do what Germany, Britain, and I think Canada have done - put in laws that shut up hate speech, the better off we will be. And laws that include anything that might be interpreted by the populace at large as incitemnt to hatred.<br /><br />Germany and England have those laws because they understand what hatred is about, and how evil people incite violence.<br /><br />And in the dark ages, even the kings of Europe were afraid of the catholic church, something that did not begin to change until about 1500 with Henry *(?) who wanted a divorce.<br /><br />And of course that liberalization was met with the murderous inquisition. Torture and burning at the stake of those who dared to challenge the churches beliefs, eg the earth was flat.<br /><br />the same church that today has yet to excommunicate Hitler, born and baptized catholic in very catholic Austria.<br /><br />Why = my conjecture - it was the church that gave the world the hatred of the Jews, because they wouldn't convert, even on pain of death. <br /><br />A hatred hitler leveraged to gain election in 1933, and the rest is the history of 55 million murders.<br /><br />No wonder they haven't yet EXcommunicated hitler - because they would have to admit their own guilt and excomm the church as wellSteveMD2https://www.blogger.com/profile/08708307604209488249noreply@blogger.com